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SEC Company Response from NATIONAL TAX CREDIT INVESTORS II (CIK 0000859921) — Jun 9, 2005

NATIONAL TAX CREDIT INVESTORS II (CIK 0000859921)
Date: June 9, 2005 · CIK: 0000859921 · Accession: 0000711642-05-000266

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Referenced dates: April 26, 2005, May 25, 2005

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NATIONAL TAX CREDIT INVESTORS II (CIK 0000859921)

Letter

Re: National Tax Credit Investors II Form 10-KSB for the year ended December 31, 2004 File No. 0-20610

NATIONAL TAX CREDIT INVESTORS II 55 Beattie Place, P.O. Box 1089 Greenville, SC 29602

June 9, 2005

Correspondence Filing Via Edgar and Overnight Delivery

United States Securities and Exchange Commission Division of Corporation Finance Mail Stop 0409 450 Fifth Street, NW Washington, D.C. 20549 Attn: Mr. Steven Jacobs

Ladies and Gentlemen:

This letter responds to the comments of the staff of the Securities and Exchange Commission (the "Staff") addressed to National Tax Credit Investors II, a California limited partnership (the "Partnership"), in a letter dated May 25, 2005, which was sent in response to the Partnership's May 20, 2005 response to the Staff's original comment letter dated April 26, 2005. The Partnership's response to the Staff's comments are set forth below and are numbered to correspond to the numbering of the Staff's comments in the Staff's letter.

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Form 10-KSB for the year ended December 31, 2004

Financial Statements and Notes

Report of Independent Registered Public Accounting Firm

1. Comment: We note the report of the principal accountants states the "financial statements of these limited partnerships were audited by other auditors whose reports have been furnished to use..." Please confirm the "reports" to which the principal auditors refer is limited to the one report included in Exhibit 99.1 and does not include additional, "Material Investees" referred to in Note 2 to the financial statements.

Response: The Partnership's auditors have confirmed to us, and the Partnership supplementally provides to the Staff, that the "reports" that they referred to in their Report of Independent Registered Public Accounting Firm is limited to only the report filed as Exhibit 99.1. The Partnership's auditors did not rely on the reports of any other auditors.

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Note 1 - Summary of Partnership Organization and Significant Accounting Policies

Recent Accounting Pronouncements

2. Comment: We have reviewed your response to prior comment 3 and it remains unclear how you concluded that you were not the primary beneficiary of the variable interest entities. Specifically, tell us how you reached your conclusions in light of your response in which you say that the Partnership "would have the greatest exposure based on provisions in the local limited partnership" and relative to any advances the Partnership has made on their behalf. In addition, tell us how you have considered each of the criteria in paragraph 17 for those variable interest entities in which the other investor is a related party under paragraph 16.

Response: The Partnership made its determination of the primary beneficiary of each of the seventeen local limited partnerships identified as variable interest entities ("VIE") based on qualitative analyses. In all cases, based on analysis that included consideration of paragraphs 16 and 17 of FIN 46R, the Partnership was determined to be a member of a related party group that held variable interests in the local limited partnership.

Paragraph 16 of FIN 46R states, in part, "For purposes of determining whether it is the primary beneficiary of a variable interest entity, an enterprise with a variable interest shall treat variable interests in that same entity held by its related parties as its own interests. For purposes of this Interpretation, the term related parties includes those parties identified in FASB Statement No. 57, Related Party Disclosures ("SFAS 57"), and certain other parties that are acting as de facto agents or de facto principals of the variable interest holder." Paragraph 16.d further provides that de facto agents of an enterprise include "A party that has (1) an agreement that it cannot sell, transfer, or encumber its interest in the entity without the prior approval of the enterprise... The right of prior approval creates a de facto agency relationship only if that right could constrain the other party's ability to manage the economic risks or realize the economic rewards from its interests in a variable interest entity through the sale, transfer, or encumbrance of those interests."

Applying paragraph 16 to the seventeen local limited partnerships that the Partnership determined were VIEs resulted in the Partnership's conclusion that the Partnership is a member of a related party group that includes the general partner and the administrative general partner. The administrative general partner is a wholly-owned subsidiary of National Partnership Investments Corp. ("NAPICO"), and the general partner of the Partnership is NAPICO. The Partnership concluded under SFAS 57 that the administrative general partner and the limited partner meet the definition of related parties since both entities are under the common control of NAPICO. . The Partnership's analysis and conclusions varied depending on the ownership structure of each local limited partnership, as follows:

o In fourteen of the seventeen local limited partnerships identified as VIEs in which an administrative general partner exists, the general partner may not sell, assign, transfer, mortgage, pledge or encumber all or any part of its interest without the consent of the administrative general partner. As contemplated in paragraph 16.d of FIN 46R, this provision of the local limited partnership agreements establishes a de facto agency relationship between the administrative general partner in the local limited partnerships, and the respective general partner of those local limited partnerships. Therefore, the general partner, the administrative general partner and the limited partner (the Partnership) are members of a related party group.

o In three of the seventeen local limited partnerships identified as VIEs, the administrative general partner has assumed the role of general partner. The rights of the administrative general partner did not revert/transition to the limited partner. The general partner, formerly the administrative general partner and the respective limited partner (the Partnership) are related parties due to the common control of NAPICO. Therefore, the general partner and the limited partner (the Partnership) are members of a related party group.

Having determined under paragraph 16 that a related party relationship exists between the Partnership, the general partner and the administrative general partner of each local limited partnership identified as a VIE, the Partnership considered the guidance in paragraph 17 to identify the primary beneficiary of each partnership. Paragraph 17 of FIN 46R states, "If two or more related parties (including the de facto agents described in paragraph 16) hold variable interests in the same variable interest entity, and the aggregate variable interest held by those parties would, if held by a single party, identify that party as the primary beneficiary, then the party, within the related party group, that is most closely associated with the variable interest entity is the primary beneficiary". The Partnership determined that the variable interests held by the related party group, consisting of the Partnership and the general partners, would, if held by a single party, identify that party as the primary beneficiary. Accordingly, the Partnership considered the guidance in paragraph 17 of FIN 46R to determine the party within the related party group that is the primary beneficiary.

Paragraph 17 goes on to state that:

"the determination of which party within the related party group is most closely associated with the variable interest entity requires judgment and shall be based on an analysis of all relevant facts and circumstances, including:

a. The existence of a principal-agency relationship between parties within the related party group b. The relationship and significance of the activities of the variable interest entity to the various parties within the related party group c. A party's exposure to the expected losses of the variable interest entity d. The design of the variable interest entity."

The Partnership believes that in the application of paragraph 17 of FIN 46R, the factors listed need to be considered together in conjunction with the structure of eachlocal limited partnership and how the Partnership believes other entities would view the role of the general partner, the administrative general partner and the limited partner (i.e., the Partnership).

This consideration revealed factors that individually could identify either the general partner or the Partnership as the party with the characteristics most closely associated with the respective local limited partnerships.

Ultimately, as discussed below, the Partnership concluded that the general partner is the party within the related party group that has the characteristics most closely associated with the local limited partnerships. Factors that the Partnership considered to be most relevant include:

o Although the de facto agency relationships that were identified in connection with paragraph 16 do not clearly indicate which party is principal or agent, the Partnership believes the general partner and the administrative general partner have characteristics that are commonly associated with the principal. In this regard, the Partnership noted that the general partner and the administrative general partner are the parties an outside entity would contact regarding a local limited partnership matter. For example, regulatory agencies, such as the Internal Revenue Service or the United States Department of Housing and Urban Development would contact either the general partner or the administrative general partner when necessary. Similarly, the mortgage lenders would also contact the general partner when necessary. In all instances the general partner and/or the administrative general partner acts with authority in addressing these matters.

o The Partnership noted that each general partner's relationship with the local limited partnerships involves the following significant activities related to its rights and obligations under the related limited partnership agreements:

o The general partner shall manage and conduct the business of the local limited partnership;

o Employees of the general partner (or its affiliates) are actively involved in managing the operations of the local limited partnerships

o The general partner has the obligation to fund any recourse obligations of the local limited partnership

o The general partner is authorized to borrow funds, execute and issue mortgage notes and other evidences of indebtedness

o The general partner shall operate the local limited partnerships and shall cause the management agents to manage the properties in such a manner that the properties will be eligible to receive applicable tax credits

o The general partner shall promptly take any and all action which may be necessary or appropriate to perfect and maintain the local limited partnership, as a limited partnership under state law, and to develop, maintain, and operate the respective local limited partnerships in accordance with provisions of the local limited partnership agreement and applicable Federal, state and local laws and regulations

o The general partner shall cause the local limited partnership to obtain and maintain at all times, insurance in such amounts and at terms customary for a project similar to the local limited partnership

o The general partner is responsible for obtaining a management agent for the respective local limited partnership

In addition, the local limited partnership agreements state that the Partnership, as limited partner, shall not take part in the management or control of the business of the local limited partnerships or have the authority to bind the local limited partnerships.

These factors strongly indicate that the general partner is the party most closely associated with the local limited partnerships.

Although the Partnership has not performed a quantitative analysis to determine the relative exposures of the Partnership and general partners to the expected losses of the respective local limited partnerships, the Partnership generally believes that it would have the greatest exposure based on provisions in the local limited partnership agreements that provide for percent allocations and distributions to the limited partner(s) in accordance with ownership interest. The Partnership considered in this analysis the effects of any voluntary advances made by the Partnership to the local limited partnerships. These advances are designated a specific priority within the distribution provisions of the local limited partnership agreements. The Partnership's exposure to expected losses is greatly reduced for those local limited partnerships in which the Partnership holds a limited partner interest of less than 50% and/or does not have any voluntary advances outstanding. Although the Partnership's generally greater exposure to expected losses is a factor that tends to indicate the Partnership is the primary beneficiary, the Partnership concluded that this factor is not

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                        NATIONAL TAX CREDIT INVESTORS II
                         55 Beattie Place, P.O. Box 1089
                              Greenville, SC 29602

June 9, 2005

Correspondence Filing Via Edgar and Overnight Delivery

United States Securities and Exchange Commission
Division of Corporation Finance
Mail Stop 0409
450 Fifth Street, NW
Washington, D.C.  20549
Attn:  Mr. Steven Jacobs

Re:   National Tax Credit Investors II
      Form 10-KSB for the year ended December 31, 2004 File No. 0-20610

Ladies and Gentlemen:

This letter responds to the comments of the staff of the Securities and Exchange
Commission  (the  "Staff")  addressed  to National  Tax Credit  Investors  II, a
California limited  partnership (the  "Partnership"),  in a letter dated May 25,
2005, which was sent in response to the  Partnership's  May 20, 2005 response to
the Staff's  original  comment  letter dated April 26, 2005.  The  Partnership's
response  to the  Staff's  comments  are set  forth  below and are  numbered  to
correspond to the numbering of the Staff's comments in the Staff's letter.

                        *     *     *     *     *

Form 10-KSB for the year ended December 31, 2004

Financial Statements and Notes

Report of Independent Registered Public Accounting Firm

1.      Comment:  We note the  report of the  principal  accountants  states the
        "financial  statements  of these  limited  partnerships  were audited by
        other  auditors  whose  reports have been  furnished  to use..."  Please
        confirm the "reports" to which the principal  auditors  refer is limited
        to the one  report  included  in  Exhibit  99.1  and  does  not  include
        additional,  "Material Investees" referred to in Note 2 to the financial
        statements.

        Response:  The  Partnership's  auditors  have  confirmed  to us, and the
        Partnership  supplementally  provides to the Staff,  that the  "reports"
        that they referred to in their Report of Independent  Registered  Public
        Accounting Firm is limited to only the report filed as Exhibit 99.1. The
        Partnership's  auditors  did  not  rely  on the  reports  of  any  other
        auditors.

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Note 1 - Summary of Partnership Organization and Significant Accounting
Policies

Recent Accounting Pronouncements

2.      Comment:  We have reviewed your response to prior comment 3 and it
        remains unclear how you concluded that you were not the primary
        beneficiary of the variable interest entities.  Specifically, tell us
        how you reached your conclusions in light of your response in which
        you say that the Partnership "would have the greatest exposure based
        on provisions in the local limited partnership" and relative to any
        advances the Partnership has made on their behalf.  In addition, tell
        us how you have considered each of the criteria in paragraph 17 for
        those variable interest entities in which the other investor is a
        related party under paragraph 16.

        Response:   The  Partnership  made  its  determination  of  the  primary
        beneficiary  of  each  of  the  seventeen  local  limited   partnerships
        identified as variable  interest  entities  ("VIE") based on qualitative
        analyses. In all cases, based on analysis that included consideration of
        paragraphs 16 and 17 of FIN 46R, the  Partnership was determined to be a
        member of a related  party  group that held  variable  interests  in the
        local limited partnership.

        Paragraph 16 of FIN 46R states,  in part,  "For purposes of  determining
        whether it is the primary  beneficiary of a variable interest entity, an
        enterprise  with a variable  interest shall treat variable  interests in
        that same entity held by its related  parties as its own interests.  For
        purposes of this Interpretation, the term related parties includes those
        parties  identified in FASB Statement No. 57, Related Party  Disclosures
        ("SFAS  57"),  and  certain  other  parties  that are acting as de facto
        agents  or  de  facto  principals  of  the  variable  interest  holder."
        Paragraph  16.d further  provides  that de facto agents of an enterprise
        include  "A  party  that  has  (1) an  agreement  that it  cannot  sell,
        transfer,  or  encumber  its  interest  in the entity  without the prior
        approval of the  enterprise...  The right of prior approval creates a de
        facto agency  relationship  only if that right could constrain the other
        party's  ability to manage the  economic  risks or realize the  economic
        rewards from its  interests in a variable  interest  entity  through the
        sale, transfer, or encumbrance of those interests."

        Applying  paragraph 16 to the seventeen local limited  partnerships that
        the  Partnership  determined  were VIEs  resulted  in the  Partnership's
        conclusion  that the  Partnership  is a member of a related  party group
        that  includes  the  general  partner  and  the  administrative  general
        partner. The administrative general partner is a wholly-owned subsidiary
        of National Partnership  Investments Corp.  ("NAPICO"),  and the general
        partner of the Partnership is NAPICO.  The  Partnership  concluded under
        SFAS 57 that the administrative  general partner and the limited partner
        meet the definition of related parties since both entities are under the
        common control of NAPICO. . The  Partnership's  analysis and conclusions
        varied  depending  on the  ownership  structure  of each  local  limited
        partnership, as follows:

          o    In  fourteen  of  the  seventeen   local   limited   partnerships
               identified  as VIEs in which an  administrative  general  partner
               exists,  the  general  partner  may not sell,  assign,  transfer,
               mortgage,  pledge  or  encumber  all or any part of its  interest
               without the consent of the  administrative  general  partner.  As
               contemplated  in paragraph 16.d of FIN 46R, this provision of the
               local  limited  partnership  agreements  establishes  a de  facto
               agency relationship between the administrative general partner in
               the  local  limited  partnerships,  and  the  respective  general
               partner  of those  local  limited  partnerships.  Therefore,  the
               general  partner,  the  administrative  general  partner  and the
               limited partner (the  Partnership) are members of a related party
               group.

          o    In three of the seventeen local limited  partnerships  identified
               as VIEs, the administrative  general partner has assumed the role
               of  general  partner.  The rights of the  administrative  general
               partner did not  revert/transition  to the limited  partner.  The
               general partner,  formerly the administrative general partner and
               the  respective  limited  partner (the  Partnership)  are related
               parties  due to the  common  control of  NAPICO.  Therefore,  the
               general  partner and the limited  partner (the  Partnership)  are
               members of a related party group.

        Having  determined under paragraph 16 that a related party  relationship
        exists   between  the   Partnership,   the   general   partner  and  the
        administrative   general  partner  of  each  local  limited  partnership
        identified  as  a  VIE,  the  Partnership  considered  the  guidance  in
        paragraph 17 to identify the primary  beneficiary  of each  partnership.
        Paragraph  17 of FIN  46R  states,  "If  two  or  more  related  parties
        (including the de facto agents  described in paragraph 16) hold variable
        interests  in the  same  variable  interest  entity,  and the  aggregate
        variable  interest  held by  those  parties  would,  if held by a single
        party,  identify that party as the primary beneficiary,  then the party,
        within the related party group, that is most closely associated with the
        variable  interest entity is the primary  beneficiary".  The Partnership
        determined that the variable  interests held by the related party group,
        consisting of the Partnership and the general  partners,  would, if held
        by a single  party,  identify  that  party as the  primary  beneficiary.
        Accordingly,  the Partnership considered the guidance in paragraph 17 of
        FIN 46R to determine  the party  within the related  party group that is
        the primary beneficiary.

        Paragraph 17 goes on to state that:

        "the determination of which party within the related party group is most
        closely  associated with the variable  interest entity requires judgment
        and  shall  be  based  on  an  analysis  of  all   relevant   facts  and
        circumstances, including:

a.      The existence of a principal-agency  relationship between parties within
        the related party group
b.      The  relationship  and  significance  of the  activities of the variable
        interest entity to the various parties within the related party group
c.      A party's  exposure  to the  expected  losses of the  variable  interest
        entity
d.      The design of the variable interest entity."

        The Partnership  believes that in the application of paragraph 17 of FIN
        46R, the factors  listed need to be considered  together in  conjunction
        with  the  structure  of  eachlocal  limited  partnership  and  how  the
        Partnership  believes  other entities would view the role of the general
        partner,  the  administrative  general  partner and the limited  partner
        (i.e., the Partnership).

        This  consideration  revealed factors that  individually  could identify
        either  the  general  partner or the  Partnership  as the party with the
        characteristics  most  closely  associated  with  the  respective  local
        limited partnerships.

        Ultimately,  as discussed  below,  the  Partnership  concluded  that the
        general partner is the party within the related party group that has the
        characteristics   most  closely   associated   with  the  local  limited
        partnerships.  Factors  that  the  Partnership  considered  to  be  most
        relevant include:

          o    Although the de facto agency  relationships  that were identified
               in connection  with  paragraph 16 do not clearly  indicate  which
               party is principal or agent, the Partnership believes the general
               partner   and   the    administrative    general   partner   have
               characteristics  that are commonly associated with the principal.
               In this regard,  the  Partnership  noted that the general partner
               and the administrative general partner are the parties an outside
               entity  would  contact  regarding  a  local  limited  partnership
               matter. For example,  regulatory  agencies,  such as the Internal
               Revenue  Service or the United  States  Department of Housing and
               Urban Development would contact either the general partner or the
               administrative  general  partner when necessary.  Similarly,  the
               mortgage  lenders  would also  contact the general  partner  when
               necessary.  In all  instances  the  general  partner  and/or  the
               administrative  general partner acts with authority in addressing
               these matters.

          o    The Partnership  noted that each general  partner's  relationship
               with  the  local  limited  partnerships  involves  the  following
               significant  activities  related to its  rights  and  obligations
               under the related limited partnership agreements:

          o    The general  partner shall manage and conduct the business of the
               local limited partnership;

          o    Employees of the general partner (or its affiliates) are actively
               involved  in  managing  the   operations  of  the  local  limited
               partnerships

          o    The  general  partner  has the  obligation  to fund any  recourse
               obligations of the local limited partnership

          o    The general  partner is authorized  to borrow funds,  execute and
               issue mortgage notes and other evidences of indebtedness

          o    The general partner shall operate the local limited  partnerships
               and shall cause the management agents to manage the properties in
               such a manner  that the  properties  will be  eligible to receive
               applicable tax credits

          o    The general  partner shall promptly take any and all action which
               may be necessary or appropriate to perfect and maintain the local
               limited  partnership,  as a limited  partnership under state law,
               and to  develop,  maintain,  and  operate  the  respective  local
               limited  partnerships  in accordance with provisions of the local
               limited partnership  agreement and applicable Federal,  state and
               local laws and regulations

          o    The general partner shall cause the local limited  partnership to
               obtain and  maintain at all times,  insurance in such amounts and
               at terms  customary  for a project  similar to the local  limited
               partnership

          o    The general  partner is  responsible  for  obtaining a management
               agent for the respective local limited partnership

        In addition,  the local limited  partnership  agreements  state that the
        Partnership,  as limited partner,  shall not take part in the management
        or control of the business of the local limited partnerships or have the
        authority to bind the local limited partnerships.

        These factors  strongly  indicate that the general  partner is the party
        most closely associated with the local limited partnerships.

        Although the  Partnership  has not performed a quantitative  analysis to
        determine the relative exposures of the Partnership and general partners
        to the expected losses of the respective local limited partnerships, the
        Partnership  generally believes that it would have the greatest exposure
        based on  provisions in the local limited  partnership  agreements  that
        provide  for  percent  allocations  and  distributions  to  the  limited
        partner(s)  in  accordance  with  ownership  interest.  The  Partnership
        considered in this  analysis the effects of any voluntary  advances made
        by the Partnership to the local limited partnerships. These advances are
        designated a specific priority within the distribution provisions of the
        local limited  partnership  agreements.  The  Partnership's  exposure to
        expected losses is greatly reduced for those local limited  partnerships
        in which the Partnership  holds a limited partner  interest of less than
        50% and/or does not have any voluntary  advances  outstanding.  Although
        the  Partnership's  generally  greater  exposure to expected losses is a
        factor  that  tends  to  indicate   the   Partnership   is  the  primary
        beneficiary,   the  Partnership   concluded  that  this  factor  is  not