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SEC Company Response from NATIONAL TAX CREDIT INVESTORS II (CIK 0000859921) — Jul 14, 2005

NATIONAL TAX CREDIT INVESTORS II (CIK 0000859921)
Date: July 14, 2005 · CIK: 0000859921 · Accession: 0000711642-05-000312

AI Filing Summary & Sentiment

Referenced dates: April 26, 2005, June 15, 2005, June 15, 2005, May 25, 2005

Date
July 14, 2005
Author
/s/ David R. Robertson
Form
CORRESP
Company
NATIONAL TAX CREDIT INVESTORS II (CIK 0000859921)

Letter

Re: National Tax Credit Investors II Form 10-KSB/A for the year ended December 31, 2004 File No. 0-20610

NATIONAL TAX CREDIT INVESTORS II 55 Beattie Place, P.O. Box 1089 Greenville, SC 29602

July 14, 2005

Correspondence Filing Via Edgar and Overnight Delivery

United States Securities and Exchange Commission Division of Corporation Finance Mail Stop 4561 450 Fifth Street, NW Washington, D.C. 20549 Attn: Mr. Steven Jacobs

Ladies and Gentlemen:

This letter responds to the comments of the staff of the Securities and Exchange Commission (the "Staff") addressed to National Tax Credit Investors II, a California limited partnership (the "Partnership"), in a letter dated June 15, 2005, which was sent in response to the Partnership's June 9, 2005 response to the Staff's second comment letter dated May 25, 2005, which was sent in response to the Partnership's May 20, 2005 response to the Staff's original comment letter dated April 26, 2005. The Partnership's response to the Staff's comments are set forth below and are numbered to correspond to the numbering of the Staff's comments in the Staff's letter dated June 15, 2005.

As discussed more fully below, the Partnership determined that its evaluation of paragraph 5(c) of FIN 46R did not properly take into account the guidance in footnote 11 to FIN 46R as it applies to three local limited partnerships in which a related party is the general partner. As a result, the Partnership has determined that the three local limited partnerships are variable interest entities. This matter and the Partnership's plan to revise its disclosure in future filings are described below following the Partnership's responses to the Staff's comments.

* * * * *

Form 10-KSB/A for the year ended December 31, 2004

Financial Statements and Notes

Note 1 - Summary of Partnership Organization and Significant Accounting Policies

Recent Accounting Pronouncements

1. Comment: We have reviewed your response to comment 2 in our letter dated May 25, 2005. Please address the following additional items: o Tell us the name of the general partner of the local limited partnerships and if they are currently consolidating the variable interest entities. o Please provide us with a representative excerpt from the local limited partnerships agreements that discuss the fact that the general partner is prohibited from selling, assigning, transferring, mortgaging, pledging or otherwise encumbering or disposing of its interests and identifies the parties with the related consent rights.

Response: The accompanying Exhibit A provides the name of the general partner of each of the local limited partnerships and the Partnership's understanding of whether the general partner is consolidating the respective variable interest entity ("VIE"). Most of the general partners of the local limited partnerships are not affiliates of the Partnership and have not informed the Partnership of their accounting policies with respect to their investments in the local limited partnerships.

The accompanying Exhibit B provides a representative excerpt from the local limited partnership agreement for an investee of the Partnership, which excerpt describes the restriction on the general partner's ability to sell, assign, transfer, mortgage, pledge or otherwise encumber or dispose of its interest in the local limited partnership.

2. Comment: In your response you list a number of indicators that you believe make the general partner the principal and the limited partner the agent. A number of the indicators related to the general partner appear to be the role of a management company. In addition, under the terms of the partnership agreement, the general partner is prohibited from selling, transferring, or encumbering its interest in the partnership without the approval of the limited partner. This also appears to indicate that the general partner is the agent. Tell us how you addressed the above factors in determining which party was the principal and agent and also discuss any kick-out rights that the limited partner possesses.

Response: Paragraph 17(b) requires consideration of "The relationship and significance of the activities of the variable interest entity to various parties within the related party group", in making the determination of which party within the related party group is most closely associated with the VIE. The rights and obligations of the general partners listed in the Partnership's response dated June 9, 2005 are detailed in Articles V and VIII of the local limited partnership agreements. These rights and obligations are granted to the general partner and not to the management company. The Partnership concluded that these rights and obligations granted to the general partners were factors that strongly indicated the general partners are the parties most closely associated with the local limited partnerships.

Under the terms of the local limited partnership agreements, the general partner is prohibited from selling, transferring or encumbering its interest in the local limited partnerships without the consent of the administrative general partner. For those local limited partnerships without an administrative general partner, this right has been eliminated.

The local limited partnership agreements provide the following with respect to "material defaults" that provide the administrative general partner with the right but not the obligation to remove the general partner and appoint itself or any of its affiliates to succeed such general partner if:

o The general partner materially violates its fiduciary responsibilities as general partner of the partnership; o The general partner is in material breach of the local limited partnership agreement or any related document for ten days after notice has been given by the administrative general partner, subject to reasonable time periods provided for the general partner to cure such breach; o The general partner willfully violates any law, regulation or order applicable to the partnership which has or may have a material adverse effect on the partnership or the apartment complex; o The general partner becomes bankrupt; o The partnership is in material breach of any project document or any other material agreement or document affecting the partnership; o The partnership at any time after rental achievement has realized cash flow of less than a designated amount; or o The partnership has had less than a designated percentage of the apartment units in the apartment complex eligible to receive tax credits, or the qualified basis of the apartment complex has been less than the basis at the close of the preceding year, or the total amount of tax credits is less than a designated amount through the compliance period.

In the event the administrative general partner does not act with respect to one of the above events occurring, the limited partner (the Partnership) has the right upon a majority vote of its limited partners, to cause the administrative general partner of the local limited partnership to remove the general partner and appoint the administrative general partner or one of its affiliates as successor general partner of the local limited partnership.

The Partnership believes that the limited partner rights to remove a general partner without cause would be a factor indicating that the general partner is the agent of the limited partner. However, the rights described above may be exercised only in the event of a breach or material default of a specific obligation. These rights are protective in nature and do not indicate that the general partner is the agent of the limited partner.

In summary, the factors noted above do not conclusively indicate which party is principal or agent in the de facto agency relationship that is deemed to exist under paragraph 16 of FIN 46R. As discussed in the Partnership's response dated June 9, 2005, the Partnership believes the general partner has characteristics commonly associated with the principal.

Revised Determination of VIEs and Planned Future Disclosure

In connection with its consideration of the Staff's comments, the Partnership has determined that it did not properly apply paragraph 5(c) of FIN 46R in determining whether certain local limited partnerships are VIEs. This misapplication involves three local limited partnerships where the general partner is a subsidiary of National Partnership Investments Corp. ("NAPICO"), the general partner of the Partnership. The Partnership previously determined that the condition in paragraph 5(c)(ii) was not met because the activities of the local limited partnership involve or are conducted on behalf of the NAPICO subsidiary, the general partner, as well as the Partnership, the limited partner with disproportionately few voting rights. This determination did not properly consider footnote 11 to paragraph 5(c) of FIN 46R, which states in part "activities that involve or are conducted on behalf of the related parties of an investor with disproportionately few voting rights shall be treated as if they involve or are conducted on behalf of that investor". We have now concluded that substantially all of the activities of the local limited partnership should have been treated as if they involve or are conducted on behalf of the Partnership. Consequently, the local limited partnerships meet both conditions in paragraph 5(c) and are VIEs.

The Partnership has considered the requirements of paragraphs 16 and 17 of FIN 46R and determined that the general partner is the member of the related party group that is most closely associated with, and therefore is the primary beneficiary of, the local limited partnerships that the Partnership now considers to be VIEs based on the Partnership's reconsideration of paragraph 5(c). Accordingly, the Partnership should not consolidate the VIEs and the basic financial statements are not affected by the Partnership's determination that the local limited partnerships are VIEs.

The Partnership will revise its disclosure of significant accounting policies in future filings to include information required by paragraph 24 of FIN 46R as it applies to the three additional local limited partnerships that were determined to be VIEs.

<PAGE>

* * * * *

As requested by the Staff in its letter dated April 26, 2005, the Partnership again acknowledges that: (a) the Partnership is responsible for the adequacy and accuracy of the disclosure in the filings; (b) Staff comments or changes to disclosure in response to Staff comments do not foreclose the Commission from taking any action with respect to the filings; and (c) the Partnership may not assert Staff comments as a defense in any proceeding initiated by the Commission or any person under the federal securities laws of the United States.

If you have further questions regarding the information provided, please contact the undersigned or Stephen Waters. Mr. Waters can be reached directly at (864) 239-1554 or by fax at (864) 239-5824.

Sincerely,
/s/ David R. Robertson

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                        NATIONAL TAX CREDIT INVESTORS II
                         55 Beattie Place, P.O. Box 1089
                              Greenville, SC 29602

July 14, 2005

Correspondence Filing Via Edgar and Overnight Delivery

United States Securities and Exchange Commission
Division of Corporation Finance
Mail Stop 4561
450 Fifth Street, NW
Washington, D.C.  20549
Attn:  Mr. Steven Jacobs

Re:   National Tax Credit Investors II
      Form 10-KSB/A for the year ended December 31, 2004 File No. 0-20610

Ladies and Gentlemen:

This letter responds to the comments of the staff of the Securities and Exchange
Commission  (the  "Staff")  addressed  to National  Tax Credit  Investors  II, a
California limited partnership (the  "Partnership"),  in a letter dated June 15,
2005, which was sent in response to the  Partnership's  June 9, 2005 response to
the Staff's second comment letter dated May 25, 2005, which was sent in response
to the  Partnership's  May 20, 2005  response to the  Staff's  original  comment
letter dated April 26, 2005. The Partnership's  response to the Staff's comments
are set forth  below and are  numbered to  correspond  to the  numbering  of the
Staff's comments in the Staff's letter dated June 15, 2005.

As discussed more fully below, the Partnership determined that its evaluation of
paragraph  5(c) of FIN 46R did not  properly  take into  account the guidance in
footnote  11 to FIN 46R as it applies to three  local  limited  partnerships  in
which a related party is the general partner.  As a result,  the Partnership has
determined  that the three local  limited  partnerships  are  variable  interest
entities.  This matter and the  Partnership's  plan to revise its  disclosure in
future filings are described below following the Partnership's  responses to the
Staff's comments.

                        *     *     *     *     *

Form 10-KSB/A for the year ended December 31, 2004

Financial Statements and Notes

Note 1 - Summary of Partnership Organization and Significant Accounting
Policies

Recent Accounting Pronouncements

1.      Comment: We have reviewed your response to comment 2 in our letter dated
        May 25, 2005. Please address the following additional items:
o          Tell  us the  name  of the  general  partner  of  the  local  limited
           partnerships  and if they are  currently  consolidating  the variable
           interest entities.
o          Please  provide  us with a  representative  excerpt  from  the  local
           limited  partnerships  agreements  that  discuss  the  fact  that the
           general partner is prohibited from selling, assigning,  transferring,
           mortgaging,  pledging or  otherwise  encumbering  or disposing of its
           interests and identifies the parties with the related consent rights.

     Response:  The  accompanying  Exhibit A  provides  the name of the  general
     partner of each of the local  limited  partnerships  and the  Partnership's
     understanding  of  whether  the  general  partner  is   consolidating   the
     respective  variable interest entity ("VIE").  Most of the general partners
     of the local limited partnerships are not affiliates of the Partnership and
     have not informed the Partnership of their accounting policies with respect
     to their investments in the local limited partnerships.

     The accompanying Exhibit B provides a representative excerpt from the local
     limited  partnership  agreement for an investee of the  Partnership,  which
     excerpt describes the restriction on the general partner's ability to sell,
     assign, transfer,  mortgage, pledge or otherwise encumber or dispose of its
     interest in the local limited partnership.

2.   Comment:  In your  response  you list a number of  indicators  that you
     believe make the general  partner the principal and the limited partner the
     agent. A number of the indicators  related to the general partner appear to
     be the role of a management  company.  In addition,  under the terms of the
     partnership  agreement,  the general  partner is  prohibited  from selling,
     transferring,  or encumbering its interest in the  partnership  without the
     approval of the limited  partner.  This also  appears to indicate  that the
     general  partner is the agent.  Tell us how you addressed the above factors
     in determining which party was the principal and agent and also discuss any
     kick-out rights that the limited partner possesses.

     Response:  Paragraph 17(b) requires  consideration of "The relationship and
     significance  of the activities of the variable  interest entity to various
     parties  within the related party group",  in making the  determination  of
     which party within the related party group is most closely  associated with
     the VIE. The rights and  obligations of the general  partners listed in the
     Partnership's  response  dated June 9, 2005 are  detailed in Articles V and
     VIII  of  the  local  limited  partnership  agreements.  These  rights  and
     obligations  are granted to the general  partner and not to the  management
     company.  The  Partnership  concluded  that these  rights  and  obligations
     granted to the general  partners were factors that  strongly  indicated the
     general  partners are the parties most  closely  associated  with the local
     limited partnerships.

     Under the terms of the local limited  partnership  agreements,  the general
     partner  is  prohibited  from  selling,  transferring  or  encumbering  its
     interest  in the local  limited  partnerships  without  the  consent of the
     administrative  general  partner.  For  those  local  limited  partnerships
     without an administrative general partner, this right has been eliminated.

     The local limited partnership agreements provide the following with respect
     to "material defaults" that provide the administrative general partner with
     the right but not the obligation to remove the general  partner and appoint
     itself or any of its affiliates to succeed such general partner if:

o     The general partner materially violates its fiduciary responsibilities
      as general partner of the partnership;
o     The  general  partner  is  in  material  breach  of  the  local  limited
      partnership  agreement or any related document for ten days after notice
      has  been  given  by the  administrative  general  partner,  subject  to
      reasonable  time periods  provided for the general  partner to cure such
      breach;
o     The general  partner  willfully  violates any law,  regulation  or order
      applicable to the partnership  which has or may have a material  adverse
      effect on the partnership or the apartment complex;
o     The general partner becomes bankrupt;
o     The partnership is in material breach of any project document or any
      other material agreement or document affecting the partnership;
o     The partnership at any time after rental achievement has realized cash
      flow of less than a designated amount; or
o     The  partnership  has  had  less  than a  designated  percentage  of the
      apartment  units  in the  apartment  complex  eligible  to  receive  tax
      credits,  or the qualified basis of the apartment  complex has been less
      than the basis at the close of the  preceding  year, or the total amount
      of tax credits is less than a designated  amount  through the compliance
      period.

     In the event the  administrative  general partner does not act with respect
     to one of the above events occurring, the limited partner (the Partnership)
     has the right upon a majority  vote of its limited  partners,  to cause the
     administrative  general partner of the local limited  partnership to remove
     the general partner and appoint the  administrative  general partner or one
     of its  affiliates  as  successor  general  partner  of the  local  limited
     partnership.

     The  Partnership  believes  that the  limited  partner  rights  to remove a
     general partner without cause would be a factor indicating that the general
     partner is the agent of the limited partner.  However, the rights described
     above may be exercised only in the event of a breach or material default of
     a specific  obligation.  These rights are  protective  in nature and do not
     indicate that the general partner is the agent of the limited partner.

     In summary,  the factors  noted above do not  conclusively  indicate  which
     party is  principal or agent in the de facto  agency  relationship  that is
     deemed  to  exist  under  paragraph  16 of FIN  46R.  As  discussed  in the
     Partnership's  response  dated June 9, 2005, the  Partnership  believes the
     general partner has characteristics commonly associated with the principal.

  Revised Determination of VIEs and Planned Future Disclosure

  In connection with its consideration of the Staff's comments,  the Partnership
  has  determined  that it did not properly  apply  paragraph 5(c) of FIN 46R in
  determining  whether  certain  local  limited   partnerships  are  VIEs.  This
  misapplication  involves  three local limited  partnerships  where the general
  partner is a subsidiary of National Partnership  Investments Corp. ("NAPICO"),
  the general partner of the Partnership.  The Partnership previously determined
  that the condition in paragraph 5(c)(ii) was not met because the activities of
  the local limited partnership involve or are conducted on behalf of the NAPICO
  subsidiary,  the  general  partner,  as well as the  Partnership,  the limited
  partner with  disproportionately few voting rights. This determination did not
  properly  consider  footnote 11 to paragraph  5(c) of FIN 46R, which states in
  part  "activities  that  involve  or are  conducted  on behalf of the  related
  parties of an investor  with  disproportionately  few voting  rights  shall be
  treated as if they involve or are  conducted on behalf of that  investor".  We
  have now  concluded  that  substantially  all of the  activities  of the local
  limited  partnership  should  have  been  treated  as if they  involve  or are
  conducted  on  behalf of the  Partnership.  Consequently,  the  local  limited
  partnerships meet both conditions in paragraph 5(c) and are VIEs.

  The Partnership has considered the requirements of paragraphs 16 and 17 of FIN
  46R and determined that the general partner is the member of the related party
  group that is most  closely  associated  with,  and  therefore  is the primary
  beneficiary  of,  the local  limited  partnerships  that the  Partnership  now
  considers to be VIEs based on the Partnership's  reconsideration  of paragraph
  5(c).  Accordingly,  the  Partnership  should not consolidate the VIEs and the
  basic financial statements are not affected by the Partnership's determination
  that the local limited partnerships are VIEs.

  The Partnership will revise its disclosure of significant  accounting policies
  in future filings to include  information  required by paragraph 24 of FIN 46R
  as it applies to the three  additional  local limited  partnerships  that were
  determined to be VIEs.

<PAGE>

                        *     *     *     *     *

  As requested by the Staff in its letter dated April 26, 2005, the  Partnership
  again  acknowledges  that: (a) the Partnership is responsible for the adequacy
  and accuracy of the  disclosure in the filings;  (b) Staff comments or changes
  to  disclosure in response to Staff  comments do not foreclose the  Commission
  from taking any action with  respect to the filings;  and (c) the  Partnership
  may not assert Staff comments as a defense in any proceeding  initiated by the
  Commission  or any  person  under the  federal  securities  laws of the United
  States.

  If you have further  questions  regarding  the  information  provided,  please
  contact the undersigned or Stephen Waters.  Mr. Waters can be reached directly
  at (864) 239-1554 or by fax at (864) 239-5824.

                                    Sincerely,

                                    /s/ David R. Robertson

                                    David R. Robertson
                                    President and Chief Executive Officer
                                    National  Partnership  Investments  Corp.,
                                    the  general   partner  of  National   Tax
                                    Credit Investors II

<PAGE>

Exhibit A - Schedule of General Partners of the Local Limited Partnerships
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                                                                          GP an       GP
                                                                          AIMCO
Registrant     Local Limited Partnership     General Partner (GP) (1)   Affiliate Consolidating

<S>         <C>                             <C>                            <C>       <C>
NTCI II     Asheville Equity, LP            NTC, Inc.                      Yes        No
NTCI II     Countryside North American      Howell Countryside, Inc.       No       Unknown
            Partners, LP
NTCI II     Edgewood, LP                    Edgewood Mgt Company, Inc.     No       Unknown
NTCI II     Fourth Street Apartment         Advanced Development &         No       Unknown
            Investors                       Investment, Inc.
NTCI II     Germantown, LP                  Germantown Mgt. Company,       No       Unknown
                                            Inc.
NTCI II     Jefferson Meadows Limited       T. Runquist, Detroit           No       Unknown
            Dividend Housing Association,   Renaissance & First Centrum
            LP
NTCI II     Kentucky River Apartments, Ltd  M. Meade, R. Myers, D.         No       Unknown
                                            Meade, W. Davis and P. Lewi
NTCI II     Wynnefield Lincoln Grove LP     Crosland Housing               No       Unknown
NTCI II     Meadowlake, LP                  Meadown Lake I Mgt. Company    No       Unknown
NTCI II     Michigan Beach, LP              MB Apartments L.P.             Yes        No
NTCI II     Oak View Spartanburg, LP        The Oak View Company           No       Unknown
NTCI II     Pampa Partnership Limited       Diversified Housing
                                            Services, Inc.
NTCI II     Huntsville Properties, LP       A. Alexander, A. Snow &        No       Unknown
                                            Sanbury Corp.
NTCI II     Northwestern Partners, Ltd.     Northwestern Partners & J.     No       Unknown
                                            Reeves
NTCI II     Quivera Place Associates, LP    Quivera Management, Inc.       Yes        No
NTCI II     Salem Park, LP                  Salem Park Mgt. Company        No       Unknown
NTCI II     Virginia Park Meadows Limited   T. Runquist, First Centrum     No       Unknown
            Dividend Housing Association,   & C. Young
            LP

</TABLE>

(1)   General Partner of the Local Limited Partnership

<PAGE>

Exhibit B - Representative Local Limited Partnership Agreement Excerpt

Oak View Spartanburg, LP (Administrative General Partner exists)

11.1  Withdrawal.
A.   The Operating General Partner may not Withdraw  (other than an  Involuntary
     Withdrawal)  from the Partnership or Assign,  pledge or encumber all or any
     part of its  Interest  without  the Consent of the  Administrative  General
     Partner,  and, to the extent  required,  of each Authority and each Lender.
     The consent of the Limited Partner shall not be required.

Definitions.
"Assignment" means a valid sale, exchange,  transfer or other disposition of all
or any  portion  of an  Interest.  "Assign